tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2851578678715572028.post7222563300843651239..comments2023-08-10T11:52:29.460-04:00Comments on Beyond Bread: Greens, Grains and the Grocery Store with Client Advisory Board Member DorothyGreg Bloomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08563081048614579716noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2851578678715572028.post-29784137042048297182010-12-14T14:59:30.211-05:002010-12-14T14:59:30.211-05:00I don't put much stock in dietary advice from ...I don't put much stock in dietary advice from the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, which is a fanatically lipophobic organization. In fact, there are only two absolutely essential macronutrients in the human diet: protein and fat. Of the two, fat is the only one guaranteed not to trigger an insuliln response. It can be fairly simply state: people who are diabetic, pre-diabetic or insulin resistant should not be concuming carbohydrates, which pretty much rules out a vegetarian or vegan diet. Therein lies the dilemma: if we argue against comsuming meat on environmental or ethical grounds, it leaves a huge segment of the population wondering what they are supposed to eat. And it is precisely that population that to a large extent finds itself without the financial means to sustain a protein/fat-based diet.Ed Bruskehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12217850970833353800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2851578678715572028.post-59117880582873933672010-12-14T14:03:49.191-05:002010-12-14T14:03:49.191-05:00Ed is right that this is a very complicated topic ...Ed is right that this is a very complicated topic that touches upon issues that desperately need to be explored. But the "poverty diet" of grains and legumes, as he called it, also often consists of lots of inexpensive meat, and I support Dorothy Kemp's attempt to introduce her friends and family to other options, including using beans in chili and snacking on hummus with vegetables. The way I see it, there is no one right answer for insulin resistance and diabetes prevention, as we're all biochemically unique. My take on this post is that the writer is talking about what works best for her body -- on a budget, and keeping in mind her concern about the environmental impact of eating what would likely be conventional beef. Ed is accurately summarizing the concerns of many (including the Slow Food and Weston A. Price Foundation movements), and those are credible points, but the vegan Physician’s for Responsible Medicine diet also works for many diabetics, which is part of why, in my opinion, there is no one-size-fits-all approach to address obesity and prevent diabetes. For example, the patients I work with in Bread for the City's medical clinic all devise a diet catered to their particular needs – health concerns, monetary resources, taste preferences, available time for prep, ability to move around the kitchen, culture and tradition, etc.Sharon Feuer Gruberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14559637667184764820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2851578678715572028.post-54630973168787894042010-12-13T15:08:37.691-05:002010-12-13T15:08:37.691-05:00There is a real dilemma in proposing "meat al...There is a real dilemma in proposing "meat alternatives" to a population that may be suffering disproportionately from obesity and diabetes. These are indicators of "insulin resistance," meaning they will only tend to add more pounds and aggravate their conditions by consuming carbohydrates, which trigger insulin, the fat storage hormone. This is doubly a dilemma because the alternative would be greater consumption of calories from quality fats (best) and protein (okay), both of which are vastly more expensive that the poverty diet of rice (or grains) and beans (or legumes). But these are issues that desperately need to be explored in greater depth where low-income populations are concerned.Ed Bruskehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12217850970833353800noreply@blogger.com